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Post by anuverwillfan on Jan 6, 2004 21:51:36 GMT 10
Just thought I'd try and add a couple of live performances by WIll and his band so you could judge him on something else - these are recorded off of MTV Italy at a general concert in June 2002(i.e. it was NOT a WIll ONLY concert!):
Firstly, Sorry! Links removed - please pm me
Hope you like them!
PS There are another 3 tracks from the same concert if you're interested.....
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astro
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Post by astro on Jan 6, 2004 22:12:23 GMT 10
yep
shell shocked like the rest of you
based on the nights performance
1. kurt - best song and performance 2. guy - great voice - wrong song 3. kelly - voice problem 4. diana - couldn't understanding the lyrics 5. will - don't like him but it was ok
the biggest disaster was heinz. his voice is terrible... just goes to show how far good looks and no talent will get you .... hmmmmm
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Post by AURORAB on Jan 7, 2004 0:13:02 GMT 10
But WHY would they want Kurt to win? If they did manipulate us, why on earth did they chose Kurt to be the designated winner? Kurt has a very good voice and he’s talented. I personally think he and Guy Sebastian are the best star quality voices discovered on the idol shows. And I would want either to win. But it was clear who they wanted to win and they weren’t gonna leave that to chance and they over-praised him. (thats how they usually do it to make sure those who might not be so convinced think he's really great too) Also Kurt sings U2 type music that they probably think they can push easily internationally too. And I won’t be surprised to see him singing for us when American idol starts. (its a business) Kurt has sold the least amount of records too compared to others and he needed the most help with marketing, so World Idol winner title won’t hurt – it will help get more sales in his country and other countries too. (He’s sold only 75 thousand copies in Norway - although its a small country) But he's one of the most talented Idols too and they see his marketing potential and thats why they designated him winner. Someone said in another thread the producers would rather Kelly or Will Young win since they can make them more money. But I think Kelly and Will already made them lots of money and sold multiple platinum records and they're already bigger stars than the others, and don’t need as much help with marketing. And Kelly doesn’t need help getting more exposure internationally. Also, its already reported Kelly and Will acted like they did not want to be there. And I know from experience with other American Idol stars the producers and management usually don’t like that (although they still need her to place second to keep her credibility since she’s their biggest star) And If they can’t give the title to those two, they’ll have to give it to Kurt. Since Heinz, Ryan and Peter aren’t deserving of World Idol title and not as talented. And they surely can’t give it to Diana even if she did well. And even though Guy is talented and has a great voice and did just as well as Kurt, I don’t think they were looking to push him as much yet. (maybe because he’s the most recent winner. Or its his style of music) But I think they gonna handle Guy differently from now, because they got great feedback about his talent & international potential from industry people at the contest - and international fans saying positive things too. Anyway, like I said Guy was my favorite and I voted for him in America, and others expected him to rank high too. But I also recognize Kurt’s talent and don’t have a problem with him winning and I think he has international potential, but it was still very obvious they wanted him to win. I just think Guy should at least have placed in the top 3 too. (I didn’t see people raving about Ryan, Heinz or Peter’s performances on the American boards like they did with Guy.) And I believe they do manipulate votes on this shows. But you’re entitled to believe what you want.
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Post by Rudi on Jan 7, 2004 18:01:21 GMT 10
This were a neat theory. I think it falls all together because, Kurt were the worst choice for the producers, because he will naturally prefer to spend alot more time with his GF and two kids, surely they would have gained alot more on Guy or someone else wich would be able to spend more time on promotion and touring, than a father of two. Kurt got alot less hype than Kelly or Will, I think also that you only got to see Ant and Dec's interview with Will in most nations, in US version they got to see all the performers interview with Ant and Dec after the judges had talked with them, while in most of Europe (Norway included) we only got to see the interview with Will, surely if they 'set' Kurt up for victory, they'd broadcast his interview in most countries as well.
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Post by magilla on Jan 7, 2004 23:11:49 GMT 10
As I see it #1GUY #2 KURT #3 kelly #4 ryan #5 jamai AND FORGET THE REST
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Post by craza couga on Jan 21, 2004 13:04:06 GMT 10
1. Kurt-Norway 2. Ryan-Canada 3. Heinz-Sth. Africa 4. Kelly-USA 5. Jamai-Netherlands
Guy would have been in my top 5 if he haad sang a better song, probably Crazy in Love!!! The rest weren't good at all.
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Post by Pinkline Jones on Jan 21, 2004 14:41:41 GMT 10
1. Paulini 2. Paulini 3. Paulini 4. Paulini 5. Paulini!!!
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Post by KatieB on Jan 27, 2004 9:40:39 GMT 10
Personally I don't think Kurt or Guy deserved to win. Kurt won purely because people listened to the song and went "wow he sings so much like the guy that really sings the song" Thats all well and good- but shouldnt a world idol be an artist that can stand out and be talented in their own right- rather than just mimicking somebody else? When it all comes down to it and these idols are supposed to be competeing in music industry with all the top performers- who is going to buy and album by "the guy that sounds like he's from u2" instead of an album by U2?
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Post by jarrad on Jan 28, 2004 20:54:32 GMT 10
who cares anymore Guy deserved it... didnt get it, no one really took any weighting on the positions anyway... guy will be working with some pretty cool producers and song writers so who cvares about where he came?, hes gonna be big
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Post by PyroDeity on Jan 29, 2004 2:01:06 GMT 10
GUY DIANA PETER RYAN KELLY
and an honourable mention goes to alexander, for being fabulously AWFUL... if it was a competition for embarrassing yourself live on national TV, he'd have won it
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Post by Pinkline Jones on Jan 30, 2004 11:00:26 GMT 10
But geez he was funny!
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Post by PyroDeity on Jan 30, 2004 23:43:42 GMT 10
hell yeah... and what makes it especially funny is that every german i know hates his sorry guts
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Post by MaybeNext on Jan 31, 2004 1:39:03 GMT 10
hell yeah... and what makes it especially funny is that every german i know hates his sorry guts Oh that's awful. He has gone form the top of his country to the bottom. That's terrible. The more I hear about this WI thing the less I like it.
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Post by PyroDeity on Jan 31, 2004 9:09:19 GMT 10
Oh that's awful. He has gone form the top of his country to the bottom. but the thing is, he was never on top of his country anyways (trust me, i have my german sources...), he was the german scott cain
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Post by SlackA on Feb 1, 2004 2:29:51 GMT 10
i didnt like the way kelly clarkson was dressed, not that it wasnt nice, just looked like she was trying to hard, and with the hand gestures made me think she was tryin to be a little alicia keys-ish..... issit just me or does anybody else think that she was trying too hard to look like THE DIVA...shes sooo manufactured.. i love her voice no doubt,,,but when u wanna talk abt over-singing..she definteley does it alot..just watch back american idol 1 and u'll see. GUY..he doesnt oversing..for goodness sakes thats how rnb is suppose to sound like and on WI..i think he was verrry laid-back..pleasant..nothing too over the top but enough to attract a great attn. heck..it did for me..before watchin WI ive never heard of GUY. MY top 5 based on performance and singin skills. 1)Kurt 2)Guy 3)Diana 4)Peter (i thought he did Lithium good) 5)Will Kelly wldve been 4 but..i thought she was a bit rigid that night..shes capable of so much better. i think she took too much time dressin up..heh~ Guy wldve been no 1..but What a wonderful world is a beaaautiful song..beauutiful rendition but it doesnt have the "oomph" factor for me oh and that alex (poland gurl) in the video of her winnin story>>she sounded sooo much better..she just chose a wrong song.
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