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Post by guyswifey on Jan 3, 2004 21:38:46 GMT 10
i didnt like the way kelly clarkson was dressed, not that it wasnt nice, just looked like she was trying to hard, and with the hand gestures made me think she was tryin to be a little alicia keys-ish.....
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Post by superc on Jan 3, 2004 21:41:10 GMT 10
Now in reply to 'Reggie'. I understand that Guy is influenced by R&B and Gospel however I still believe that he sometimes oversings some songs. For example the last note/s he sings in 'Wonderful World' reaches approximately seven notes on the one syllable. I find this a little annoying SOME TIMES (not most of the time) and the same sort of problem that Pete Waterman described to Kelly Clarkson about "too much trilling and frilling". This is only my opinion however. I thought so too when I first heard him, but you do get used to it... and begin to appreciate it even . I was surprised that Kelly got that comment but Guy didn't... however, I've read several times from various people who'd just heard him at WI, that they were impressed at how natural Guy sounded when doing his 'trills' (I call then runs actually). I think Kelly's sounded more 'put on' by comparison, possibly because she emphasises them, whereas Guy's is just smooth all the way through. Anyway, I hope you get used to 'em .
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Post by LEIGH on Jan 3, 2004 21:46:17 GMT 10
I thought so too when I first heard him, but you do get used to it... and begin to appreciate it even . I was surprised that Kelly got that comment but Guy didn't... however, I've read several times from various people who'd just heard him at WI, that they were impressed at how natural Guy sounded when doing his 'trills' (I call then runs actually). I think Kelly's sounded more 'put on' by comparison, possibly because she emphasises them, whereas Guy's is just smooth all the way through. Anyway, I hope you get used to 'em . 100% agree with you there
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Post by Reggie1 on Jan 4, 2004 1:55:44 GMT 10
First I will reply to 'duh' sorry about the mistake. I had seen a report on a website placing Guy in sixth position. However I accept that I made a mistake. Sorry bout that. Now in reply to 'Reggie'. I understand that Guy is influenced by R&B and Gospel however I still believe that he sometimes oversings some songs. For example the last note/s he sings in 'Wonderful World' reaches approximately seven notes on the one syllable. I find this a little annoying SOME TIMES (not most of the time) and the same sort of problem that Pete Waterman described to Kelly Clarkson about "too much trilling and frilling". This is only my opinion however. Hey Brett! Okay, well you find it annoying...I find it amazing. The way he is able to climb the scales and interpret notes is a gift...very difficult for most. I think this is what I hear and can appreciate because I grew up with so much R and B, Gospel and Blues...and later on Rock! The things that he can make his voice do!! Alot of singers would kill to have his natural abilities. Anyway, I respect you view...just disagree. No problem!!
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Post by Stina on Jan 4, 2004 3:12:21 GMT 10
reaction immediately after watching the show: 1) Kurt 2) Peter ...... 3)Ryan 4)Guy 5)Will 6)Kelly Kurt and Peter I actually enjoyed listening to. Ryan and Guy stood out next because I wasn´t expecting a lot based on a few things I dl on the internet(bad quality maybe) so appreciated their voices. Not a huge R&B fan so put Ryan over Guy. Will over Kelly because I preferred his laid back tone of singing over Kellys style. But had I voted I would have only thrown a vote Peter and Kurts way. After having seen the show and listening to a few things and reviewing the show I still put Kurt on top so 1)Kurt 2)Ryan And I judge this way because I actually could imagine buying something those two made, depending on the music of course, because their voices appeal to me. Voices I could imagine poping into the car CD player singing along with. 3) Guy, but I don´t think I´d be a fan of his music genre so couldn´t imagine buying anything. Have R. Kelly´s R&B Greatest Hits CD and that´s enough for me. 4)Will...only because I appreciate his version more hearing it a second time BUT I´ve heard his other stuff, seen his video on TV and I don´t like his music. Of course Kelly has a strong voice but I´d never buy anything she put out for the sole reason it isn´t the best voice in her genre so I don´t rate her. With Peter I already own a Nirvana CD and it was as much the song as it was the singer that made him a favourite showtime. I can´t help feeling the little Polish spitfire got screwed in this show. The little snippets from her own contest and such make me think she´s got a cracker of a voice with as much belting power as Kelly but with more personality. Even if that personality is just being a nutter. Didn´t hurt Björk any. ;D I read she was given that song shortly before the contest(her choices being overruled). Maybe just rumour but makes me wonder whether the producers didn´t want to take her down a notch to help others out.
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Post by Guest on Jan 4, 2004 7:49:44 GMT 10
Click on the links below to hear for yourself tracks from the new album Free Live performance hereStonger (album track sample) here LRN Live performance hereFriday's Child Live performance hereLRN Live Acoustic performance here
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Post by maria on Jan 4, 2004 10:38:15 GMT 10
I am from Australia although I did think that Kurt controlled his voice better than anyone in the competition. However, Guy's natural music ability is astonishing and had the competition been "WORLD IDOL: Compose a Song" Guy would have won hands down. Another point I would like to make about Guy is that he tends to oversing a lot. What I mean by this is that his vocal aerobics should only be used to a certain extent. World Idol was a very unfair competition, this is because, as I'm sure people have mentioned before, the difference in length as Idol was diverse. For example Kelly Clarkson has been American Idol for over 2 years now, same situation with Heinz, Peter and Alexander. This has given Clarkson and others and opportunity to already launch their careers internationally. Guy, on the other hand, has only been Australian Idol for 3-4 months, he has barely launched his career in Australia let alone on a world stage. Not so sure that Guy would have won even if it was called "compose a song"..because then kurt would have got the chance to show his song writing tallent,he did write 9 of the 12 songs that are on his cd,and they are briliant!
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Post by jarrad on Jan 4, 2004 13:27:28 GMT 10
Guy Kurt Kelly Ryan Hienz
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Post by random on Jan 4, 2004 13:59:36 GMT 10
Now in reply to 'Reggie'. I understand that Guy is influenced by R&B and Gospel however I still believe that he sometimes oversings some songs. For example the last note/s he sings in 'Wonderful World' reaches approximately seven notes on the one syllable. I find this a little annoying SOME TIMES (not most of the time) and the same sort of problem that Pete Waterman described to Kelly Clarkson about "too much trilling and frilling". This is only my opinion however. I totally understand what you are saying cos it pissed me off at first also, but imagine how the song would have come off if he sung it without all the "trills and frills". (as they have come to be called!) 1 word-BORING. Thats what Guy is about...taking a song and trying to make it interesting. I think it is an aquired taste, though. Obviously it was not everyones cup of tea, but I think creativity should be respected. A lot of people on here are moaning because he didn't sing it the traditional way, but seriously...it doesn't take real talent to simply re-sing a song. Only the luck of being born with a nice voice.
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Post by jemos on Jan 6, 2004 12:53:42 GMT 10
I liked Kurt, Will, and to a lesser extent Ryan and Jamai. But Guy was my favourite maybe because I am Australian I can't judge that really. However I love Guy's interpretations of songs with all the trimmings. It makes it really interesting. Sometimes I don't think it works completely and other times I think it is transforming. I love Wonderful World and listen to it all the time now. Of course the original was great too but I've heard it enough and have lost interest in it. Guy's interpretations breathe new life into older songs. I'd love to go to a concert where he just sang covers of famous songs and I could just check out his interpretations.
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Post by AURORAB on Jan 6, 2004 17:31:54 GMT 10
I saw this in America. And here's how I rate them.
1) GUY - beautiful voice and beautiful singing. I prefer his rendition to the boring and jazzy original. 2) Diana - Her singing was lovely and enchanting - even if its another language. 3) Kurt - He was good. I liked his tone of voice and how he sounded at the beginning of his song than towards the end. 4) Will Young - I've heard him sing that song better though. But he has a strong voice 5) Kelly - it was decent even though she shouted a bit. I personnaly think the votes was manipulated by the producers. Its a reality show people. I think it was pretty obvious it was Kurt they wanted to win, and they already knew how they gonna do the ranking despite the votes too (maybe to help some safe face, and others sell more records) I think the fact they said Arabs voted Alexander first place when he was so clearly bad should clue you in that the votes aren't that accurate: I think they made it like that to make Arabs look like they are stupid and amuse everyone cause of the political climate. (Arabs tends to like soulful and melodic songs like Guy sang too)
Btw, it must be Heinz good looks thats making some of you like him cause his singing and voice was pretty average. Even one of the judges said that. He's like 7th or 8th on my list.
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Post by Rudi on Jan 6, 2004 18:01:42 GMT 10
I think it was pretty obvious it was Kurt they wanted to win, and they already knew how they gonna do the ranking despite the votes too I'm dying to get to hear how you've managed to figure out that Kurt were the producers choice?
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Post by AURORAB on Jan 6, 2004 18:56:54 GMT 10
I'm dying to get to hear how you've managed to figure out that Kurt were the producers choice? Because I’ve been a fan of American Idol since the beginning and I know how they operate and manipulate the show. (I’m pretty sophisticated to the reality shows and showbiz too) Maybe their games might be new to you here but we’ve had 2 seasons of it. Also, the version they showed in America was edited to have Kurt sing last and shower him with praises on how he should win. It wasn’t had to tell they were setting him up as the winner, so it’s no surprise when they announce the votes. And singing last is the prime sport to make people remember him and make the praises sink in their mind (thats how television works) - especially those who can't know for themselves and needs the judges to clue them in. And Guy was shown performing second here and they didn’t even show Simon comments to him at all which would have helped him with more votes. (but in other countries they showed he said Guy’s singing was very good and his voice too) But Simons comments to Kurt singing was shown. I mean, Kurt is good and i don't mind that he won - but do you think every country would give him first place? (forget about the Arab votes. That’s obviously not real. Another way to make it not seem they rank Kurt at the top everywhere) He didn’t even come like 4th in some countries – it was that obvious he’s so great compared to others ? I like Kurt too, but if he was that obvious he's the best a lot of people in America won’t be saying Guy, Kelly might win it too – and Guy came 7th? Don’t be so naive people. I live in America land of showbiz, and it was already clear who they wanted to win to some of us. We know the clues to look for cause we've had enough practice (it will be too obvious to give it to Kelly.) But believe what what you want. Some people are more savvy than others.
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Post by Lurker on Jan 6, 2004 20:49:52 GMT 10
But WHY would they want Kurt to win? If they did manipulate us, why on earth did they chose Kurt to be the designated winner?
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Post by anuverwillfan on Jan 6, 2004 21:28:38 GMT 10
So you're NOT the same Stina that posts on the WIll Young web-sites then??? Shame! As you can tell by my user-name I'm a Will fan! However, I didn't want him to win WI - like most people in the UK I think it was a bit of a naff idea ... it doesn't even include all the world after all - only 11 countries! Nevertheless, I DO love Will's style of singing and he has got an amazing voice - what you experienced on WI from Will was technically good, but nowhere near what he can do! Will's genius lies in his amazing emotional interpretation of songs - particularly those he's written. I'm not going to go into why his WI performance didn't show intense emotions but it's something that has been discussed at length on his UK web-sites... Nevertheless, he's a fantastic live performer - I've seen him loads of times and live just waiting for my next opportunity!! lol! Of the other competitors I thought Guy's voice was great - would be interested to hear him sing something else tho... I'm not a huge fan of Kelly - I think she has a good voice but often belts it out so she shouts, the AI final is a good example of this! But, nevertheless I expected her to win the comp.! I thought Kurt's voice and performance were good, but he sounded so much like Bono that I wonder if there's much of a career for him in it ... from that one performance he lacked individuality - but I appreciate one performance from anyone is too little to judge on. I thought Peter's performance was good too - and brave, given the confines of the show! I also liked his comebacks at Simon Cowell - I saw it in full 'cos I was there when it was recorded!!! Other than these tho. whilst I quite enjoyed some of the performance at the time, I struggle to isolate the others. So, for me they don't stand out ... and I think individuality is an important aspect of surviving in the music industry!
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