|
Post by Very interesting on May 8, 2005 18:09:04 GMT 10
It is nice to know what you guys are thinking on this subject. I have been hurt by abortion ! and Elle also knows what she is talking about. I wish I knew then what I know now. The fact is it is so easy to be rail roaded down the abortion track with people screaming "Your body, your rights" that you don't stop to really think about the little life inside of you and then theres the years of hating yourself as a consequence. I admire what Guy and Gary are attempting to do with trying to set up an environment for women to be fully informed on the possible outcomes of their decisions. Guy's heart is in the right place...I am sure (the word FAITH keeps popping in my head). Also, I don't know his full beliefs on the matter as I have never had a conversation with him about it. But I do know that you can think that abortion is not necessarily the best thing to do. I believe that myself. But, I don't believe that it is my place to tell another woman what to do. It is her will and choice. You can extend a hand, provide a shoulder, and be responsible for her as a friend. I find it hard to tell someone what to do with their body. But, I would be there as a friend to talk things through, for counseling (as a friend), help her find info on the consequences (either way), and help her during the aftermath (either way). Could this not be the case with this proposed center? But as TD said....we really don't know. But, in any case...I think debate is a good thing. Good to see the differing opinions. Peace, Reg
|
|
|
Post by I hope so on May 8, 2005 18:20:17 GMT 10
"Could this not be the case with this proposed centre?"
That is the same question I'm asking. I hope that it would be the case- that the centre will support women regardless of their decision. Unfortunately, however, this is not always the case. I have heard of some instances where "educational" centres are full of anti-abortion lobbyists labelling women murderers. I'm NOT for one minute suggesting that Guy would EVER pass judgement on another human like that- but I'm not 100% sure if he would/ could support them either.
|
|
|
Post by joes on May 8, 2005 18:23:13 GMT 10
|
|
|
Post by pls no on May 8, 2005 18:23:28 GMT 10
Is that mean Guy in politics now?
|
|
|
Post by Just adding on May 8, 2005 18:25:21 GMT 10
I'm sure Guy's heart is in the right place as everyone keeps saying...just not sure about that beautiful head.
|
|
|
Post by ok on May 8, 2005 18:38:32 GMT 10
ok well i dont think we can judge before we know the full details of what there trying to do this is only a snippet of what they have writeen in the news paper so i think ppl need to not worry and just lets see what happens i dont think guy is into judging women and no i dont know what he will and wil not do in this clinic but do be so quick to judge him youve only heard a liltle bit about what he wants to do and im SURE that a lot of planning and thought.prayer had gone into this give him a shot instead of shooting it down before anyhting has even started one thing i know know is he is a an awesome guy with a big heart and has peolps best interest atheart whether it works or it doesnt peolpe are only human and maybe stuff up and make bad decisions i dont think this is one of them but time willt ell all i can say is have an opened mind about and maybe then maybe if u personally speak to guy (none of us really know what his plans are ) and see how he stands on this issue maybe then u can attack him and this issue and also the whole most of his decision are influences by hillsong church he doesnt even go to that church and also i think maybe his decision will be influenced by his morals faith and god !not a hillsong
|
|
|
Post by sorry on May 8, 2005 18:43:01 GMT 10
It is nice to know what you guys are thinking on this subject. I have been hurt by abortion ! and Elle also knows what she is talking about. I wish I knew then what I know now. The fact is it is so easy to be rail roaded down the abortion track with people screaming "Your body, your rights" that you don't stop to really think about the little life inside of you and then theres the years of hating yourself as a consequence. I am sorry for your pain and I wish that I could hold you and take some of it away from you. Even though I probably don't know you. I am sorry that you felt railroaded. That surely should not have been the case. There should have been a place where you could have turned, a place that could have counseled and informed you of all of YOUR choices and the aftermath of those choices. My heart hurts for you. I am sorry that this is such a difficult issue. Please PM me if you need to talk to someone. You will find me under BBG and my name is Regina. I am no counselor but I can listen. Much love to you. Peace, Reg
|
|
|
Post by stats on May 8, 2005 18:55:47 GMT 10
Why Women have Abortions
Social Reasons — Feels unready for responsibility 21% — Feels she can’t afford baby 21% — Concern for how baby would change her life 16% — Relationship problem 12% — Feels she isn’t mature enough 11% — Has all children she wants 8% — Other reasons 4-5%
CANBERRA, April 22, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Almost one in five Australian babies are killed by abortion - approximately 91,000 per year - according to the latest federal government findings, released Thursday.
i know these might seem like its getting pretty deep but the fcat is its a deep issue that needs a centre like this the biggest reason for abortion is bacuse unready for responsiblilty so if a cantre like this can help educate on basic skills on bringing up a baby and showing them support and also finicaly not ready and he also said something about accomodation i just think it will really help with peolp making an educated decison 91,000 really is quite sad i mean peolpe make this decisons im not saying whether its right or wrong for them but anyhting that might help that number which is really a number its someones life come down has to be a good thing right ?
|
|
|
Post by Jess wtfing on May 8, 2005 19:04:01 GMT 10
How dare some of you sit here under the disguise of a guest and type up your shit-stinking opinions about an article that basically just MENTIONED something that Guy (and Gary) have plans to do.
How dare you assume to know his motives, his reasons for doing so, suspect that it's some evil religious cult putting him up to it, Guy being naive enough to let people manipulate him in to it....
How come you can't just take it for what it is? He wants to help the cause. Personally I don't have an opinion on abortion, I don't care too much either way, but some people clearly do -- how can you say what he is doing is wrong? You have no idea what his intent is. You have no idea how the centre will be run, but some of you keep assuming to know...
He can't do anything these days, can he? Clearly the boy is just trying to help. Yes there are other needy causes, but why should one thing be any less important than another? In the same breath Guy mentions going to Africa, that's frekking HUGE! Why are we not all praising that?! That's amazing!
Instead everyone is nit-picking over this abortion thing that we know no real details about. Maybe save the argument until we have more information, eh?
I can't see how it will harm anyone. People who don't want help won't go. It's really that simple.
|
|
|
Post by thank you Stats on May 8, 2005 19:17:27 GMT 10
Something that I can understand from all this.. I think that Guy's heart is definitely in the right place good to see a bloke get involved in this - risky obviously judging from some of the previous posts... and we love him here he has guts to make a statement and I dont think it has anything to do with religion here coz I am not at all religious but I can see where he is coming from and 91,000 - tragic
|
|
|
Post by ~bEaNiE BaBe~ on May 8, 2005 19:21:55 GMT 10
How dare some of you sit here under the disguise of a guest and type up your shit-stinking opinions about an article that basically just MENTIONED something that Guy (and Gary) have plans to do. How dare you assume to know his motives, his reasons for doing so, suspect that it's some evil religious cult putting him up to it, Guy being naive enough to let people manipulate him in to it.... How come you can't just take it for what it is? He wants to help the cause. Personally I don't have an opinion on abortion, I don't care too much either way, but some people clearly do -- how can you say what he is doing is wrong? You have no idea what his intent is. You have no idea how the centre will be run, but some of you keep assuming to know... He can't do anything these days, can he? Clearly the boy is just trying to help. Yes there are other needy causes, but why should one thing be any less important than another? In the same breath Guy mentions going to Africa, that's frekking HUGE! Why are we not all praising that?! That's amazing! Instead everyone is nit-picking over this abortion thing that we know no real details about. Maybe save the argument until we have more information, eh? I can't see how it will harm anyone. People who don't want help won't go. It's really that simple. BRAVO JESS **claps**
|
|
|
Post by joes on May 8, 2005 19:27:53 GMT 10
Love ya jess.
Claps too.
|
|
|
Post by antiabortion on May 8, 2005 19:56:17 GMT 10
this is utterly disgusting re to abortionyes
|
|
|
Post by frogo taken aback on May 8, 2005 19:59:45 GMT 10
ouch Jess! - you continue to amaze me!!
|
|
ambs
Karaoke Singer
who's that guy?
Posts: 84
|
Post by ambs on May 8, 2005 19:59:51 GMT 10
yay jess... thanks... always putting things in perspective for us....
|
|