RAP CAUSE CRIME OR IS IT A REFLECTION OF THE TIMES

[jarrad]

Toosick i dont believe you understood my question, it is for an essay im trying to debate that rap DOESSNT cause crime but i need to know peoples oppions as per a rebuttle

[too sick]

dont worry i misunderstand people all the time my mouth always gets me in trouble

[jarrad]

is cool

[Pinkline Jones]

RAP causes brain disease in young people - and cancer in mice.

[4213]

Guest-Pinkline said:

RAP causes brain disease in young people - and cancer in mice.

This is actually quite a good summary for your essay Jarrad and sums up the absurdity of thinking lyrics will turn all youths bad.

Basically, you could blame any type of media as an influence on young people, be it rap, backward beatles records, horror movies, porn, internet.

I police, to a degree, what my children listen and watch when I can, but not everyone does, and I would be an idiot if I thought they didn't get access to these things at their mate's houses. I just have confidence that they will make the right decisions based on the values they have been brought up with and also their inate ability to make their own decisions, be it right or wrong.

Rap is just a means of the youth expressing feelings of their environment. Ok hatred, bigotry and all the bad things in life, but if we did let it out, we'd explode!!!
Things in life are not all sugary sweet.

Eminem, a classic example, is a modern day hero as at least his alta ego, Slim Shady, reflects the environment that oppresses him. It's not Marshall people!!!!! This is often a discussion point with my son.

Light and Shade, good and evil. It's all there, we can't run away from it, and I don't think rap makes any difference.

[Jarrad]

Does Hip Hop and Rap cause crime?

Crime has been a fact of life since the beginning of civilization. Recently people have being looking to external causes for criminal activity. This is usually directed at the interests of teenagers. One thing that is increasingly popular is Rap music but it is being accused of creating a “gun culture” in many societies and instigating violence and hate. Today’s rappers are role models, yet is it just to place the blame on them for Teen Crime?

Hip Hop since the begging has always been a vent of __expression, whether it be for the freedom of speech black people at the time sorely needed or to illiterate the suppression of there culture. Rap music never really “took off” until the Mid 80’s when break dancing and graffiti art hit the height of there popularity. Soon came a group named “public enemy” their first album lashed out against white America and its politics this is renowned as one of the greatest rap albums of all time yet was revered by the general public of the period. Soon after came “ Gangsta Rap” this is currently the most popular musical genre and is known for sensationalizing murder, and misogyny. “Gangsta rap” really hit the scene in 1989 when NWA released “straight outta compton” with the controversial song “fuck the police” this album sparked uproar and condemnation with many parents in America wondering how such an album could have ever been released. Over looked it would seem are many rappers who speak of leaving the street lifestyle for something better. Within a lot of the profane lyricism is a moral and usually it is leave the street and make something better of yourself and look out for one another, If any particular rapper embodied this it was 2Pac Shakur who is now considered a Rap Martyr.

Only recently Australian Politicians have “lashed out” against Eminem performing in Australia.
Queenslands Liberal MP peter slipper said “"Anyone who writes lyrics speculating about raping his mother, anyone who writes lyrics talking about having his pregnant girlfriend killed, has to be on the wrong side of mental balance.
"What we should do or what someone should do is lock him up in a mental institution and throw away the key."
John Howard was also disgusted in Eminem’ s music "They demean women," he said. "You cannot have these constantly gratuitous exhortations to violence and not expect some impact, some consequence, some spin-off." Eminem was subsequently banned from performing yet there is not one shred of evidence to suggest anything Eminem may have said have ever influenced a child to the “wrong side of the tracks”. Instead we have a lot of speculation from a lot of politicians who need; a lot of votes from parental figures come the next election…<br>
A survey conducted by the American Psychologists association web site concluded that most teens regularly exposed to rap music hadn’t partaken in illegal activities. They believe that Rap music serves as a template of which to present all of the issues plaguing today’s teens and making the common man deal with it. It would be naïve to think that we could have all of these problems in society that just “deal with themselves”, Hip Hop is considered a way of which to show every person a lifestyle that some have no choice but to lead.

“Keeping it real” is a commonly used phrase in Hip-Hop culture. What “keeping it real” entails is that you speak only the truth and you live the life you profess to live. When 2pac became the embodiment of “thug life” he became the “realist” this means he dealt with life the way he felt he needed to and stood down for nobody, He never caused trouble but dealt with it the way He knew how too. In a way 2pac can be considered a good role model he never let materialism take over His goal to give to those less fortunate that is what it means to “keep it real”. When he spoke of Thug Life he never meant those who raped or murdered he meant “The Hate U Gave Little Infants F***s Everyone” speaking of the harsh reality of having grown up in the hood. When he said Nigga he never meant it as a slang word for the black race he meant “Never Ignorant Getting Goals Accomplished”. 2Pac became the voice for those in the world whose stories weren’t being told, as is most every rapper in some shape or form.

Generally it is understood that those most enraged by some of Raps content are the parents of those who listen to it. Many find it vulgar and lash out against the musicians. Some parents create petitions, there are even those who create groups in a vein effort to stop an artist. But the simple fact is Rap music (especially that of which can be deemed “unsuitable for children”) is actually restricted for certain ages. This is where the Parents accountability must come into question. How did these young kids get a hold of an R rated CD? If the parents are worried about the rappers as role models then they must not be that great a role model themselves. Studies have shown that in 1988 in the USA (4 years before Dr Dre released “the chronic” which marked a surge in Raps popularity) 35 percent of teenagers read daily for pleasure. Now the figure has plummeted to 14 percent. Whilst St Paul Pioneer Press noted this fact I also made sure to research further, the fact is in the early 90’s American Government cut funding to public schooling quite substantially. Perhaps it would be fairer to place the blame with the government rather then the release of a particular Rap CD. People seem to believe that rap incites some to commit crimes. IL be honest the same people who would believe that would most probably be the same people who would have the Beatles convicted for the Manson murders. Those who blame Rap for crime possibly don’t understand how multifaceted it is. Whilst the MC may say he robbed a liquor shop (for example) he is likely at one point or another to have said stay true to what you believe in and don’t let anyone knock you or sway you either way. So one who blames rap for a crime they committed must have selective hearing syndrome. If we were at any point to blame pop culture in general for our own acts, We could have blamed Elvis for instigating your own lewd behavior, as He was partial to gyrating his pelvis. You could have blamed Marilyn Munroe for women being insecure and wanting to bleach blonde and you could have blamed David Bowie for the Men who liked wearing make – up.
In conclusion I believe rather then blaming rap for crime people should take it for what it is, it is a cry for help from our youth. Those who are “easy led” are just as easily influenced by video games and movies as they would be to rap music. Rap music, as I consider it… is rather a symptom then a cause. Rather then politicians trying to ban Hip Hop acts from performing maybe there is something THEY could be doing to stem the tide of teen crime. To blame is oh-so easy, yet no one comes up with the solutions. We should not censor art and everyone has the right to enjoy art no matter what another’s view on it may be. What could give a politician the right to censor my music for me? Or what art I seek? Nothing at all. Hence I do not believe Rap is responsible in any way, shape or form, for the actions of the listeners. To blame Music for the actions of the listeners is absolutely ridiculous. Almost as if to say the perpetrator of a crime had absolutely no free will at all. There is literally no evidence suggesting Hip-Hop causes crime simply there is a lot of speculation. One would hope that Eminems lyrics and any other rapper lyrics were taken in good humor by all, the way in which they were intended and not as a vehicle in which to run a politicians election campaign.
Jarrad Hurley

[Jarrad]

^ my essay, altho the paragraphys are actually seperated in the one i gave out.

[AfroDitee]

That's really good Jarrad! Hope you go/went well!

[jarrad]

read my essay please people

[UpLoad]

Rap couldnt fight its way out of a wet paper bag. Its the system, treat people like shit for long enough and they become shit. When they become shit they dont care. When no one cares society breaks down. Better get my fiddle ready for when they burn the place down!

[Raspberry]

'tis a good essay, Jarrad.

[AfroDitee]

Guest-UpLoad said:

Rap couldnt fight its way out of a wet paper bag. Its the system, treat people like shit for long enough and they become shit. When they become shit they dont care. When no one cares society breaks down. Better get my fiddle ready for when they burn the place down!

I quite like this quote

[jarrad]

thanks people il tell u the grade when i finally get it

[4213]

Guest-Jarrad said:

Does Hip Hop and Rap cause crime?

Crime has been a fact of life since the beginning of civilization. Recently people have being looking to external causes for criminal activity. This is usually directed at the interests of teenagers. One thing that is increasingly popular is Rap music but it is being accused of creating a “gun culture” in many societies and instigating violence and hate. Today’s rappers are role models, yet is it just to place the blame on them for Teen Crime?

Hip Hop since the begging has always been a vent of __expression, whether it be for the freedom of speech black people at the time sorely needed or to illiterate the suppression of there culture. Rap music never really “took off” until the Mid 80’s when break dancing and graffiti art hit the height of there popularity. Soon came a group named “public enemy” their first album lashed out against white America and its politics this is renowned as one of the greatest rap albums of all time yet was revered by the general public of the period. Soon after came “ Gangsta Rap” this is currently the most popular musical genre and is known for sensationalizing murder, and misogyny. “Gangsta rap” really hit the scene in 1989 when NWA released “straight outta compton” with the controversial song “fuck the police” this album sparked uproar and condemnation with many parents in America wondering how such an album could have ever been released. Over looked it would seem are many rappers who speak of leaving the street lifestyle for something better. Within a lot of the profane lyricism is a moral and usually it is leave the street and make something better of yourself and look out for one another, If any particular rapper embodied this it was 2Pac Shakur who is now considered a Rap Martyr.

Only recently Australian Politicians have “lashed out” against Eminem performing in Australia.
Queenslands Liberal MP peter slipper said “"Anyone who writes lyrics speculating about raping his mother, anyone who writes lyrics talking about having his pregnant girlfriend killed, has to be on the wrong side of mental balance.
"What we should do or what someone should do is lock him up in a mental institution and throw away the key."
John Howard was also disgusted in Eminem’ s music "They demean women," he said. "You cannot have these constantly gratuitous exhortations to violence and not expect some impact, some consequence, some spin-off." Eminem was subsequently banned from performing yet there is not one shred of evidence to suggest anything Eminem may have said have ever influenced a child to the “wrong side of the tracks”. Instead we have a lot of speculation from a lot of politicians who need; a lot of votes from parental figures come the next election…<br>
A survey conducted by the American Psychologists association web site concluded that most teens regularly exposed to rap music hadn’t partaken in illegal activities. They believe that Rap music serves as a template of which to present all of the issues plaguing today’s teens and making the common man deal with it. It would be naïve to think that we could have all of these problems in society that just “deal with themselves”, Hip Hop is considered a way of which to show every person a lifestyle that some have no choice but to lead.

“Keeping it real” is a commonly used phrase in Hip-Hop culture. What “keeping it real” entails is that you speak only the truth and you live the life you profess to live. When 2pac became the embodiment of “thug life” he became the “realist” this means he dealt with life the way he felt he needed to and stood down for nobody, He never caused trouble but dealt with it the way He knew how too. In a way 2pac can be considered a good role model he never let materialism take over His goal to give to those less fortunate that is what it means to “keep it real”. When he spoke of Thug Life he never meant those who raped or murdered he meant “The Hate U Gave Little Infants F***s Everyone” speaking of the harsh reality of having grown up in the hood. When he said Nigga he never meant it as a slang word for the black race he meant “Never Ignorant Getting Goals Accomplished”. 2Pac became the voice for those in the world whose stories weren’t being told, as is most every rapper in some shape or form.

Generally it is understood that those most enraged by some of Raps content are the parents of those who listen to it. Many find it vulgar and lash out against the musicians. Some parents create petitions, there are even those who create groups in a vein effort to stop an artist. But the simple fact is Rap music (especially that of which can be deemed “unsuitable for children”) is actually restricted for certain ages. This is where the Parents accountability must come into question. How did these young kids get a hold of an R rated CD? If the parents are worried about the rappers as role models then they must not be that great a role model themselves. Studies have shown that in 1988 in the USA (4 years before Dr Dre released “the chronic” which marked a surge in Raps popularity) 35 percent of teenagers read daily for pleasure. Now the figure has plummeted to 14 percent. Whilst St Paul Pioneer Press noted this fact I also made sure to research further, the fact is in the early 90’s American Government cut funding to public schooling quite substantially. Perhaps it would be fairer to place the blame with the government rather then the release of a particular Rap CD. People seem to believe that rap incites some to commit crimes. IL be honest the same people who would believe that would most probably be the same people who would have the Beatles convicted for the Manson murders. Those who blame Rap for crime possibly don’t understand how multifaceted it is. Whilst the MC may say he robbed a liquor shop (for example) he is likely at one point or another to have said stay true to what you believe in and don’t let anyone knock you or sway you either way. So one who blames rap for a crime they committed must have selective hearing syndrome. If we were at any point to blame pop culture in general for our own acts, We could have blamed Elvis for instigating your own lewd behavior, as He was partial to gyrating his pelvis. You could have blamed Marilyn Munroe for women being insecure and wanting to bleach blonde and you could have blamed David Bowie for the Men who liked wearing make – up.
In conclusion I believe rather then blaming rap for crime people should take it for what it is, it is a cry for help from our youth. Those who are “easy led” are just as easily influenced by video games and movies as they would be to rap music. Rap music, as I consider it… is rather a symptom then a cause. Rather then politicians trying to ban Hip Hop acts from performing maybe there is something THEY could be doing to stem the tide of teen crime. To blame is oh-so easy, yet no one comes up with the solutions. We should not censor art and everyone has the right to enjoy art no matter what another’s view on it may be. What could give a politician the right to censor my music for me? Or what art I seek? Nothing at all. Hence I do not believe Rap is responsible in any way, shape or form, for the actions of the listeners. To blame Music for the actions of the listeners is absolutely ridiculous. Almost as if to say the perpetrator of a crime had absolutely no free will at all. There is literally no evidence suggesting Hip-Hop causes crime simply there is a lot of speculation. One would hope that Eminems lyrics and any other rapper lyrics were taken in good humor by all, the way in which they were intended and not as a vehicle in which to run a politicians election campaign.
Jarrad Hurley

Jarrad

I found this an informative essay and felt you argued the points validly. I especially liked the blaming Beatles music for the Manson Murders line.

Well done.

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