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Post by Sheenia on May 14, 2004 17:24:08 GMT 10
 I have been looking through other sites and discovered a link to an American idol board that were discussing the better Idols version of ‘when doves cry’. I went and downloaded Clays version and was just about falling off my chair (again ;P) with each and every note he sang....... It's Guy, but nowhere near as good.......I have to say I was so shocked I didn't quite know how to react. He used it for his American Tour, which was a sell out, so I am concerned it's damaging to Guy if he breaks into the market over there and sings that song!!!! I was asking about it and someone said that Clay was in an interview and tried to imply it was his arrangement, and did everything but say it. Have a listen Guys and tell me what you think. This download is Clay singing when doves cry in his concert. members.shaw.ca/singtome/whendovescry_vegas.mp3This next link is also a direct link to the thread where they are voting and discussing our lively Guy.... you might find it interesting, and see some familiar names and faces over there. Naturally there are some of the usual rude and aggressive (and totally un Guy like) fans misrepresenting him and pissing people off but it's an interesting read all the same. idolforums.com/index.php?showtopic=148670 |
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Post by teetree on May 14, 2004 17:28:44 GMT 10
wow!!!
that is so cool!!!
but it's Guy's version of WDC....so it'll always be his
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Post by SoCantBeLoggingOnRightNow on May 14, 2004 17:43:20 GMT 10
I have been looking through other sites and discovered a link to an American idol board that were discussing the better Idols version of ‘when doves cry’. I went and downloaded Clays version and was just about falling off my chair (again ;P) with each and every note he sang....... It's Guy, but nowhere near as good.......I have to say I was so shocked I didn't quite know how to react. He used it for his American Tour, which was a sell out, so I am concerned it's damaging to Guy if he breaks into the market over there and sings that song!!!! I was asking about it and someone said that Clay was in an interview and tried to imply it was his arrangement, and did everything but say it... Barstard! |
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Post by frogo on May 14, 2004 17:46:15 GMT 10
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Post by Sheenia on May 14, 2004 17:56:41 GMT 10
hahaha girls, settle down....crazy, how bad are you....lol, I laughed so hard!! I don't want to slag Clay but I think it's a pretty disrespectful thing to do to Guy if it's true, and I can't confirm it is. I didn't see the interview or read the transcript, so it's just hearsay and I guess someone’s interpretation of that interview, but it's such an awesome arrangement it wouldn't really surprise me if BMG made Clay sing it and tried to make him stay hush hush about the arrangement. Hmm the truth will come out, but I know for sure now that I don't want Guy to sing WDC on American Idol at all  . Hehe and lets face it, Clay just can’t wear the stripes like our little Guy can. hehe one of the American fans on that site said that "you gotta love a mullet afro" when she saw his sing it, bahahahahahahaha, Funni ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by maggie20ct on May 14, 2004 17:57:17 GMT 10
omg!! Its EXACTLY the same! That is so not right unless he gives Guy credit for it!! I cant get over how much the same it is! almost every note stolen, which (as sheenia said) will completely ruin it for Guy if he ever wants to release it in America. Im really angry about this  |
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Post by Sheenia on May 14, 2004 18:19:33 GMT 10
I was at first too Maggie, now I'm just trying to see it as a positive thing only See it as flattery, though I don't know how to react to the fact that Clay didn't give Guy arrangement rights and is taking the credit for it(trying not to frown, I don't want wrinkles).   It is a complete copy of Guy's version, and it is great for Guy if people know, but if they don't I think it's bad for him because he should be able to sing this song on his tour in the USA if he breaks into the market, because he is remarkable at it. Who else has had a listen, it's seriously worth it Download people and let us know what you think!! |
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Post by ~bEaNiE BaBe~ on May 14, 2004 18:43:01 GMT 10
Hi there guys
I've been lurking around this awesome site of your for some time now, so thought it was about time I braved a post. Be gentle with me.
I feel the same as you Sheenia. Quite peeved and shocked when I heard it. And I had my say on the forum, I think it was as "polite" as I could've been yesterday. But I think the truth will come out. The Clay fans, who are interested in doing so, will do their homework and discover that Guy did it first on Aus Idol. But they probably won't admit it. There are a number of Guy fans in the States who have got Guy's Album already, Luke Perry, Randy Jackson and some of the AI3 contestants, included I do believe. I've been stewing over it all night and all day today. I'm sort of over it. Guy's unbelievable talent will win out. I really don't think Guy would be too worried, he desperately wants to break away from doing covers and hit us and hit us hard with his stuff...aawww I can not wait. We've just had a new member post at Yahoo. He's from the States and saw Guy on World Idol, has done his homework, seen all Guys Idol performances and is now a true fan and wants info from Yahoo.
GUY'S UNBELIEVABLE TALENT WILL WIN OUT.
I have one huge concern tho. What will the reactin of The Clay Clan be after Guy sings on American Idol. The forums will be hot that is for sure. Regardless of Guy's performance, I doubt whether the die hard Clay fans will be complimentry. We may have to steer clear of their sites. Wow, not bad for a first post.
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Post by superc on May 14, 2004 19:08:45 GMT 10
I was asking about it and someone said that Clay was in an interview and tried to imply it was his arrangement, and did everything but say it. Whoa... now that's not too cool. But Clay's a good guy... I'd like to see that interview - it might change my opinion of Clay . Is Guy singing WDC on Idol? ABMH would make more sense... and be prepared for an underwhelming reaction from America if Guy performs on a results show. When reading the spoiler threads, people get annoyed at or don't pay attention to the guest singers who postpone the results. |
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Post by nanouk on May 14, 2004 19:09:16 GMT 10
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Post by HairBear on May 14, 2004 19:15:35 GMT 10
Hi there guys I've been lurking around this awesome site of your for some time now, so thought it was about time I braved a post. Be gentle with me. I feel the same as you Sheenia. Quite peeved and shocked when I heard it. And I had my say on the forum, I think it was as "polite" as I could've been yesterday. But I think the truth will come out. The Clay fans, who are interested in doing so, will do their homework and discover that Guy did it first on Aus Idol. But they probably won't admit it. There are a number of Guy fans in the States who have got Guy's Album already, Luke Perry, Randy Jackson and some of the AI3 contestants, included I do believe. I've been stewing over it all night and all day today. I'm sort of over it. Guy's unbelievable talent will win out. I really don't think Guy would be too worried, he desperately wants to break away from doing covers and hit us and hit us hard with his stuff...aawww I can not wait. We've just had a new member post at Yahoo. He's from the States and saw Guy on World Idol, has done his homework, seen all Guys Idol performances and is now a true fan and wants info from Yahoo. GUY'S UNBELIEVABLE TALENT WILL WIN OUT. I have one huge concern tho. What will the reactin of The Clay Clan be after Guy sings on American Idol. The forums will be hot that is for sure. Regardless of Guy's performance, I doubt whether the die hard Clay fans will be complimentry. We may have to steer clear of their sites. Wow, not bad for a first post. Welcome... bEaNiE BaBe~ excellent for a first post - you will fit in here just perfectly ;D as you said "GUY'S UNBELIEVABLE TALENT WILL WIN OUT" but yes it is a worry... WDC would have been a perfect choice to showcase Guy but if Clay has already toured using his arrangement - then it probably won't be a good choice now... drat!! I just love the way Guy sings that song... or any of his songs for that matter... but I guess in a showcase performance with people hearing you for the first time...you have to pick just the right song - I wonder what it will be  Thanks Sheenia - you are awesome... you are always starting off great threads/topics and this generates a lot of discussion and fun here on the boards  |
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Post by superc on May 14, 2004 19:17:01 GMT 10
It'll make more sense for him to sing ABMH (that is if he's planning to release that single to the US  ). Hey Nanouk, are you still with yahoo? Could you please ask them to lay off the extreme Guy love on the idolforums board? Cause it actually is hurting Guy if people start comparing him with Clay (because the Claymates won't accept anyone else as the best!). It's better if we just let people make up their minds about Guy instead of building him up into some singing angel, cause it seriously hurt his image at World Idol. |
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Post by Ava on May 14, 2004 19:17:48 GMT 10
Hi there guys I've been lurking around this awesome site of your for some time now, so thought it was about time I braved a post. Be gentle with me. I feel the same as you Sheenia. Quite peeved and shocked when I heard it. And I had my say on the forum, I think it was as "polite" as I could've been yesterday. But I think the truth will come out. The Clay fans, who are interested in doing so, will do their homework and discover that Guy did it first on Aus Idol. But they probably won't admit it. There are a number of Guy fans in the States who have got Guy's Album already, Luke Perry, Randy Jackson and some of the AI3 contestants, included I do believe. I've been stewing over it all night and all day today. I'm sort of over it. Guy's unbelievable talent will win out. I really don't think Guy would be too worried, he desperately wants to break away from doing covers and hit us and hit us hard with his stuff...aawww I can not wait. We've just had a new member post at Yahoo. He's from the States and saw Guy on World Idol, has done his homework, seen all Guys Idol performances and is now a true fan and wants info from Yahoo. GUY'S UNBELIEVABLE TALENT WILL WIN OUT. I have one huge concern tho. What will the reactin of The Clay Clan be after Guy sings on American Idol. The forums will be hot that is for sure. Regardless of Guy's performance, I doubt whether the die hard Clay fans will be complimentry. We may have to steer clear of their sites. Wow, not bad for a first post. hi beanie babe!! terrific you're outta the guest shadows and into the light!  what a great first post *immensely impressed* you're right, i'd steer clear of the clay boards for a while...its not nice to suddenly be bombarded with "clay STOLE guy's arrangement!" sure he used it (it is obvious) but we don't know the details...lets' be nice...guy can't help his bucketload of talent! |
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Post by nanouk on May 14, 2004 19:26:37 GMT 10
Easier said than done superc. They're a passionate bunch over there which is good, but as you said fans of other idols (especially Clay's) can be a bit one-eyed (just like some Guy fans) and will be almost hostile to anything promoting anyone else.
I have refrained from voting in any of these polls for that reason.
A few others from here have already given the same opinion on the yahoo board (hi sheenia) and I have posted my support. I think most of the people there understand but there will always be a few uncontrollable ones.
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Post by Arwen on May 14, 2004 19:30:20 GMT 10
Clays version was good...i like guys much better thou. could the people of screamed any louder  ive got a headache!! but yeah its not the first time ive heard Princes song like this (slow at the start) so clay didnt nessacarly copy off guy...actually im quite sure he didnt . |
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what a great first post
ive got a headache!!