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Post by MaybeNext on Mar 13, 2004 10:02:23 GMT 10
New Zealand Herald
Humiliation a 'major element' of Pop Idol
13.03.2004
By ALAN PERROTT
Watching contestants publicly humiliated rather than hearing them sing is a major element in the appeal of Pop Idol shows, says Australian judge Ian "Dicko" Dickson.
"I hate to admit it, but that ritual humiliation has become a very big factor in the show's basic DNA.
"Sometimes we bag contestants who are a little bit fragile and over the edge and I think the show should have a duty to understand that.
"It wouldn't surprise me if we get a Pop Idol suicide one day and I really don't know how the show would handle that."
Dickson, the managing director of marketing for BMG Australia who became known as the nasty judge on Australian Idol, is touring New Zealand with his champion Guy Sebastian.
Sixty NZ Idol contestants have now been whittled down to 10, including a wildcard finalist selected by the judges, who make their first appearance on TV2 this weekend.
Dickson attended the filming of the first final, which was held before an audience last night. Sebastian was a guest judge.
The wildcard will be publicly announced today and the first final will screen tomorrow.
Dickson considers Pop Idol to be a beautifully honed business machine, with BMG predicting that 50 million show-related singles and albums will be sold worldwide over the next four years. Large amounts of money are invested, but huge amounts will be made in return.
Sebastian accepted that Pop Idol was as much about television ratings as music, but rejected any notion that he was a manufactured star.
"If I needed to use an autotune on my album or couldn't write my own songs, I'd worry about my credibility. But I tour with experienced musicians and we're all reading from the same book. I'm not manufactured or whatever.
"You can look like Kylie Minogue but if you can't sing it sticks out like a sore thumb."
Sebastian's apparent abilities have given the Pop Idol series a credibility it needed to maintain, said Dickson.
"But it's a needle in haystack, [like] someone who's never trialled for their school team suddenly becoming five-eighths for the All Blacks. That's the context you have to put it in."
And he dismissed those who say the winners are given an easy path to stardom.
"You can't downplay how tough it is. This is boot camp. These young kids have no time to themselves and are dragged from pillar to post for weeks with no sleep and a camera following them to the loo.
"Don't feel sorry for them, just understand what they had to go through."
Three Australian Idol contestants, including Robert Mills, who had a highly publicised fling with Paris (The Simple Life) Hilton, are on five-album contracts with BMG.
Another, female impersonator Courtney Act, is on a single contract.
* NZ Idol: Meet the Idols, TV2, tonight 7.30. NZ Idol, TV2, tomorrow 7.30pm
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Post by Beautifulfriend on Mar 13, 2004 10:09:56 GMT 10
 thanks MBN, ***BO freaks out - who is from NZ did you tape it and can I get a copy****
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Post by random on Mar 13, 2004 12:04:42 GMT 10
Yes, I expect a blow-by-blow account of this event from our New Zealand representatives.  |
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Post by comet on Mar 13, 2004 13:34:33 GMT 10
This is why channel 10 should have aired NZ idol instead of American Idol. I'm pretty sure NZ idol would have attracted more interest than AIdol III  |
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Post by SoCrazyInLoveWithGUY on Mar 13, 2004 19:41:58 GMT 10
This is why channel 10 should have aired NZ idol instead of American Idol. I'm pretty sure NZ idol would have attracted more interest than AIdol III Damn Straight! |
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Post by NuwZiolind on Mar 13, 2004 20:01:20 GMT 10
I saw NZ Idol. It was held in a paddock and each sheep took a turn at belting out a song.
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Post by Foxbat on Mar 13, 2004 20:59:26 GMT 10
LOL. You must have your blinkers on. ;D
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Post by Inside Australian Idol on Mar 14, 2004 2:01:19 GMT 10
Idol's teen pregnancy message By DAMIAN McINTYRE 13mar04 AS a young single mother, Australian Idol finalist Cle Wootton knows how tough it can be to raise a child. So she is more than happy to help spread the message of sex education to young people throughout Australia. Wootton was in the state as a guest judge for Talent Tasmania but found time to visit Family Planning Tasmania, in New Town, to lend her support to the Teenage Pregnancy and Support Program. Wootton was only 17 when she gave birth to daughter Taeana, who is now five. She knows first hand the trials and tribulations that go along with raising a child on your own and urges young people to be careful. With Tasmania having the second-highest rate of teenage pregnancy in Australia, a new program will be launched in schools to deal with the problem. "A program like this definitely would have opened up my eyes a bit more when I was growing up," she said. "I would have taken it all more seriously. "You only take it seriously when you actually have the baby." Family Planning Tasmania's executive director Michelle Swallow said the program aimed to reduce the teenage pregnancy rate within low socio-economic and rural-isolated areas. These areas have been identified as "at risk" in terms of teenage pregnancy rates. "This is due to a number of factors including, limited access to contraception, limited access to confidential health care and limited, or no, access to family planning clinics," she said. Wootton said the main struggle she experienced was the feeling of loneliness. "That is the main thing, the feeling that you are doing it by yourself," she said. Wootton has no regrets about being a mother and now realises how lucky she is. However, she admits sex education is greatly needed. The 23-year-old from Perth admits she missed out on a part of her youth when she fell pregnant. "I get really excited now when I do things like going to the movies, it makes it more special," she said. Family Planning Tasmania has received a grant from the Department of Health and Human Services to run the program in two schools in southern Tasmania. www.themercury.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,8950818%255E3462,00.html |
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Post by Inside Australian Idol on Mar 14, 2004 2:03:59 GMT 10
Fewer performers, fewer viewers for NZ Idol 13.03.2004 By ALAN PERROTT The gradual whittling of NZ Idol contestants has been matched by the show's ratings, which have declined since a cumulative audience of 1.2 million tuned in for the first episode on February 1. Doubts over the show's popularity have been fuelled by TVNZ's refusal to disclose the number of votes viewers have cast. But Ian Dickson, managing director of marketing for BMG, a part-owner of the Pop Idol concept, said New Zealand had the show's highest viewership per head of population. "Whatever you imagine is going to happen at the business end, double it," he claimed before attending the filming of the first final on Friday night. But if the owners are happy, reaction from NZ Idol's biggest audience, teenagers, is mixed. Krystina Te Kanawa, 18, from the North Shore said she was keeping faith in the show, despite the finalists being mainly male. "I think it's great. I just have to watch it even if I have to rush home from somewhere else or fight the olds for the remote. "I've only missed one show so far and that's only because I was on work experience. I hope Camillia wins." Sef Tupou, from Mangere, can't stand the show. "If there were more hip hop artists and reggae singers on there I'd most probably be more interested," said the 18-year-old. Another 18-year-old, Steven Lilo from Avondale, said it was positive for youth. "It's a great thing for young people who want to get somewhere, plus everything else on television at that time is rubbish." In Whangarei, teenagers sitting in the Strand Mall agreed with 15-year-old Hilary Cooper's assessment that the Australian and American shows were "way flasher". "We look so budget. Even the house they are staying in. Shame." Aryn Reti, 14, said the judges were "a crack-up", but the New Zealand version was "getting a bit boring because there's not many mean singers." Eriki Kite, 15, thought the singing hadn't reached the standard set by American Idol Reuben Studdard. "Reuben is the man and they're not reaching his level of singing." But, Logan Wendt, 15 - nicknamed Guy Sebastian II because of his burgeoning afro, backed NZ Idol "because all the Maori and Pacific Islanders have got the meanest voices out". Hilary Cooper wanted younger, hipper judges "like Scribe or Brooke Fraser. We don't even know who these judges are." Bryan Hellier said judge Fiona McDonald was a control freak. "But I'm pretty sure they judge on how they look. If they look ragged, they wouldn't give them a chance." Darrell Kairau, 18, said the singers "could be more talented", the lay-out of the show was not as impressive as the overseas versions and the judges were too lenient. * Additional reporting RENEE KIRIONA, CLAIRE TREVETT, ROSALEEN MACBRAYNE www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyID=3554477&thesection=news&thesubsection=general |
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Post by Inside Australian Idol on Mar 14, 2004 2:08:50 GMT 10
Big night out 13mar04 THE twin cities are getting ready to rock and then roll on out to the footy as two huge events draw North Queenslanders in their thousands tonight.  A crowd of more than 15,000 is expected to pack Dairy Farmers Stadium as the National Rugby League season kicks off in the North with the clash between the Cowboys and the Manly Sea Eagles. But before that, 3500 screaming fans will pack Townsville Entertainment Centre for the sell-out concert being put on by farm boy turned No. 1 artist, Shannon Noll. And the North Queensland Cowboys have a new recruit for their fan club in Noll, who happily donned the club jersey yesterday and posed for photos at the stadium in a brief stopover en route from Charters Towers to Cairns. Noll returns to Townsville today and hopes to make it out to Dairy Farmers Stadium for the Cowboys' season opener, but only after he finishes his concert. The concert was scheduled for an early 6pm start to allow fans to enjoy both forms of entertainment. The football starts at 8.35pm. Noll's Townsville concert is part of his whirlwind 11-day tour of Queensland. He told the Townsville Bulletin yesterday of his disappointment that while up North he would not get the chance to wet a line to catch a barra due to his hectic schedule. townsvillebulletin.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,7034,8952904%255E14787,00.html |
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Post by Inside Australian Idol on Mar 14, 2004 2:27:16 GMT 10
Will it be take two for Millsy March 13, 2004 IT will be Millsy's moment of truth. Celebrity nothing Paris Hilton looks set to return to Australia in May. The high-profile hotel chain heiress is in final negotiations to co-star in the remake of the Vincent Price horror film, House of Wax, which will be filmed on Queensland's Gold Coast, reports showbiz editor Michael Bodey. She will join 24 star Elisha Cuthbert, Dawson's Creek's Chad Michael Murray and some as yet unconfirmed young Australian actors as one of a group of friends falling prey to a demented villain who coats his victims in wax. Hilton – whose acting career has so far consisted of playing herself in the reality series, The Simple Life, and in the film Zoolander, sitting on a boat deck in a bikini in Wonderland and standing in a nightclub in the upcoming The Cat In The Hat – was last in Australia in November. Her visit was most notable for her one-night stand with Australian Idol's Robert 'Millsy' Mills, flaunted so eagerly on the balcony of Sydney's Quay Grand hotel. Millsy has also landed a film role, playing camel-lover Rhino Cobb in the inauspiciously title G'Day LA. The confident chap, who is one of the ambassadors for the Golden Slipper Festival, recently said he had not been in touch with the heir-head lately, but he had been following The Simple Life with interest. dailytelegraph.news.com.au/story.jsp?sectionid=1266&storyid=1031067 |
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Post by Scooby12 on Mar 14, 2004 5:03:18 GMT 10
TEXTGuy isn't on the NZ idol show until tonight at 7.30pm ova here in NZ. I am typing the who show for a friend of mine in Adelaide and that if u like I will send you a copy of the show tonight with Guy on it. Let me know if u want one and also if you have a video that can play both Long play and short play. Bye
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Post by Elle on Mar 14, 2004 21:07:20 GMT 10
We'd love the typed copy - thanks, please let us know EXACTLY where on this board you plan to post it - NZ idol?
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Post by Beautifulfriend on Mar 14, 2004 22:57:17 GMT 10
;D
typed copy posted in the AI section by 40 Karats THANKS again for the hard work people it is truely appreciated.
Scooby12 sent you a PM thanks
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