avaMAJOR ANTHONY FAN
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ANTHONY
Jan 8, 2005 14:39:02 GMT 10
Post by avaMAJOR ANTHONY FAN on Jan 8, 2005 14:39:02 GMT 10
No way!!!!!!
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ANTHONY
Jan 8, 2005 21:35:31 GMT 10
Post by prinia on Jan 8, 2005 21:35:31 GMT 10
Anthony'll be fine. Its Casey I feel sorry for.
And I think the reason they didn't sing tonight was 1. it was pretty limited as far as time and performers and 2. more importantly, ppl wanted to talk to them when they donated their money. Fair enough. 3. Guy was doing behind scenes stuff.
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ANTHONY
Jan 9, 2005 22:45:12 GMT 10
Post by natalia on Jan 9, 2005 22:45:12 GMT 10
Before I say anything let me just inform everybody that I am a very big Anthony Callea supporter, but I don’t mind Guy Sebastian either… I believe Guy has proved himself to be a very serious, professional and popular artist who is not just a singer and that’s it, he is a extremely talented musician and from what I’ve heard can tackle all things involved within the recording industry and last night at the Reach out to Asia concert I think he stuck it up to a lot of people, particularly to the scrutinisers of him and of idol…<br> If you ask me, this whole big kafuffle over who has the highest selling single is a complete joke... seriously, does it even matter to us? Whoever has sold the most singles, that’s great and its great for our Australian Music Industry which would have been nowhere if it hadn't been for Australian Idol (Shannon Noll and particularly Guy Sebastian) revitalising record sales... And many of the successful selling acts at the moment such as Jet, Powderfinger, Missy, etc. should be very grateful…<br> However, back to the point… even though I’m a big Anthony Callea supporter, it doesn't really mean as much the highest selling single being 'The Prayer' in comparison to Guy Sebastian’s 'Angels Brought Me Here'. 'The Prayer' was a remake, its a song which had previously been a huge seller around the world, making it a world renowned. It was and is loved by many people cause it is filled with such emotion and passion and everybody that hears it loves it, be it the Boccelli/Celine version or Anthony’s version. The song is a goldmine in itself, it was pretty much guaranteed that this single was going to sell extremely well and it didn’t hurt that Anthony Callea has the perfect voice for this song. But it doesn’t mean as much, as it is a remake… Guy’s was from scratch and it was HIS single. And YES I know he didn’t write it but it is his song, he released it and it is under his name…….
Now, this is a lot to be said by myself, being a particularly big Anthony Callea supporter but a lot of it had to be said as many of the Anthony Callea supporters are very single minded and aren’t open to many discussions and thoughts unless they are about how great Anthony Callea is or how he is beating his fellow Idol grand finalist Casey or Anthony ‘apparently’ (well in the eyes of them at least) being better than everybody else in both the idol series. My suggestion to the Anthony Callea supporters is to be a little more open minded and open to other artists and don’t criticise other idols which are now artists and make comparisons… because its making you seem very petty and when people find particular artists fans to be petty and criticising of other artists for no apparent reason other than them being a little competition for Anthony and the fans being scared and intimidated, it could end up hurting the one person you doing this all for… Anthony himself…<br> Basically long story short, what I mean by this is ‘The Prayer’ is always going to be known around the world as the Boccelli/Celine version, not the Anthony Callea version… And in the Australian Recording Industry, its always going to be classified as a remake, not the real thing… If Anthony Callea officially now has the highest selling single or fastest selling single or whatever it is, that is really great and congratulations to him, I’m right behind him, records are made to be broken as they say… but if he really wants to prove himself and in order to gain respect and be an artist in his own right, he needs to release a single of his own and it, sorry to say, has to do particularly well…<br> Please don’t get me wrong though, I love Anthony Callea and I think he’s interpretation and rendition of ‘The Prayer’ is simply beautiful but in my eyes and opinion, in order to have the highest selling single, it ought to be YOUR single in order for it to be an artists highest selling single… It means more and it more creditable…
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ANTHONY
Jan 10, 2005 10:02:38 GMT 10
Post by MaybeNext on Jan 10, 2005 10:02:38 GMT 10
Natalia so well said. This is just so spot on in all ways.
I would like to add to your comment about Anthony fans bagging out guy puts Anthony in a bad light. I made a brief visit to the Delta forums a while back and a whole heap there decided to bag Guy out. It offended me so much that I haven't been able to listen Delta's album since. Those words repeat on me like a bad meal every time I hear her voice. Those weren't Delta's beliefs but somehow they have stuck with her.
So be careful what you say. Praise Anthony all you like but don't bag out others.
Anthony's The Prayer really is beautiful and is up there with the good ones (I have 4 different versions of that song already). So well done Anthony. Good on him and I hope he does well.
He, he... I loved that little banter between him and Rove at the Aid concert. Anthony puts up with a lot about his height and he takes it so well. It really adds to his personality to see him joking around like that.
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ANTHONY
Jan 10, 2005 14:52:16 GMT 10
Post by allie LuvAnThOnY on Jan 10, 2005 14:52:16 GMT 10
mehh, natalia what you mean by most Anthony fans are single mimded , sound like you are superior than us. What's wrong with you? Anthony is the BEST idol ever, we have more international Anthony supporters than any idols! you can't deny Anthony singing and his looks r way better than guy. In fact, Anthony "The Prayer" is the highest selling single in Australia, it sold more copies in 1 week and more than 'angels brought me here'. Can't you give him the credit? I doubt you are Anthony fan at all.
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ANTHONY
Jan 10, 2005 15:02:49 GMT 10
Post by allie LuvAnThOnY on Jan 10, 2005 15:02:49 GMT 10
I hate rove!
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ANTHONY
Jan 10, 2005 18:04:46 GMT 10
Post by I like anthony 2 on Jan 10, 2005 18:04:46 GMT 10
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ANTHONY
Jan 11, 2005 2:27:14 GMT 10
Post by MaybeNext on Jan 11, 2005 2:27:14 GMT 10
In fact, Anthony "The Prayer" is the highest selling single in Australia, it sold more copies in 1 week and more than 'angels brought me here'. Actually The Prayer outsold ABMH in its second week of sales (145,000) not its first week(35,000). The Prayer began sale 3 days early and placed it #1 within that week, as it sold the 35,000 (which is a really amazing result). So Anthony can claim to have sold more in his second week of sales (his first full week) than Guy's ABMH. Unfortunately for Anthony this early sale of his single robbed him of the title of fastest selling Aust single, which is why no reputable newspaper (Cashmere for Undercover doesn't qualify - he added both weeks of sales together making a 10 day week for his result) has written about this record breaking achievement that you are claiming. *Please give me the links to news articles that disagree here. I am happy to congratulate Anthony if indeed this is not the case.* Now of course Guy fans could argue that ABMH did not go on sale till the Monday of that first week and the majority of stores had run out of the single by the Tues and the stores did not get anymore until the Thur/Fri (so this equates to about 4 days of sales too in its first week). BMG were not anticipating such big sales and so did not press enough straight away. In fact BMG refused to press any more of the single after 280,000 (4P) as they wanted people to buy the album. So Guy's ABMH was basically all sold out by week 4. Anthony may well sell more than Guy's 4P single however. But this will depend on whether BMG decide to press more than the 4P that are on sale at the moment. As Anthony's album is not due out yet this may very well be the case. Then he can claim title for the highest selling single because then indeed it will be. But The Prayer is such a good song and a brilliant seller that it seems nit picky putting this up. Anthony does have a great voice and he is singing such a marvellous song. I would like to thank him for bringing this marvellous song to the attention of the Aussie public who might otherwise have never heard it. Please don't get angry and bag me out. Just post up the links or quote the articles that otherwise dispute these figures. As I have said I am happy to tip my hat to the new record holder as records are meant to be broken. *I got my figures of Anthony's sales from the Cashmere article that claimed Anthony the winner. Cashmere's figures may be correct but his interpretation of the results are debatable and I have yet to find another source that agrees with him. When Guy broke this record it was reported in the majority of newspapers and in Rolling Stone magazine.* PS Elton John's single "Candle in the Wind an Ode to Dianna" holds the record for the fastest selling of all time in Aust.
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ANTHONY
Jan 11, 2005 9:12:39 GMT 10
Post by Edster on Jan 11, 2005 9:12:39 GMT 10
One of the reasons that sales were good with the Prayer was that people liked the SONG. The true test will be when he releases his album. Would people be prepared to buy the album and listen to Anthony sing songs that they are not familiar with?
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ANTHONY
Jan 11, 2005 10:17:59 GMT 10
Post by robygirl on Jan 11, 2005 10:17:59 GMT 10
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ANTHONY
Jan 12, 2005 19:22:14 GMT 10
Post by natalia on Jan 12, 2005 19:22:14 GMT 10
Allie I’m not being rude to you by all means, I don't like to be rude, but first of all, get your facts straight before you try and make a point (in relation to the figures of sales) and second of all, don't make accusations as to whether I am a Anthony fan or not. While I am mature enough to respect your opinion, quite frankly I couldn't care less what you want to think about me... I am, unlike a number of the Anthony fans (notice I say a number, not ALL of them, so I am NOT bagging out all of them) a very big supporter of Anthony Callea for the simple reason that I believe he is a fantastic singer, a stand out performer with a tremendous amount of potential. A number of his fans, in particular the teeny popper one's don't appreciate Anthony for his musical talents, the main reason why they like him is cause he is "like soooo hot” and only buy his music for that primary reason. Now I’m not saying that I’m so much older than you guys or anything, I’m 19 so I don’t want it to feel as if I’m talking down to you or anything. While I will not disagree, I do think he is an attractive guy, maybe if they looked past his looks for just a little bit maybe they could see some sense in what I said in my previous post. Haha, while I do understand that a number of the fans, girls in particular, and hey maybe boys too, no disrespect there, it’s the 21st century, will find this quite a daunting task.. haha, if you just opened your eyes a little and looked past the whole image and thought about what I posted, you may, even if its just a little, comprehend and take on board what I was trying to get across. I am not the enemy here, I am a fan of Anthony and am behind him 100%. You could say that I am a trusty ally trying to help you guys out I’m just trying to shed some light on how some of the Anthony fans are being perceived which could ultimately hurt Anthony’s career in the near distance future if some are not careful with how they express themselves (MaybeNext knew what I was trying to get across and others). Now I am not one to tell people how to act or dictate what they say, everyone is entitled to their own opinion but again, if you just try and understand what I am saying, maybe it can help just a little. By the way I think this is a fantastic site and for the die-hard Guy Sebastian fans over in the Australian Idol section, I must say, after the Reach Out To Asia Concert myself and a lot of my friends were impressed and were very happy to see him back on the screens again. He is a rare Australian talent. So many people I know really like Guy but there just isn’t enough backing behind him so fans just drop off. While I was waiting to purchase a CD from Big W I was standing behind a lady who happened to be purchasing Beautiful Life this week and if I can remember correctly the conversation between herself and the cashier went something like this…<br> Lady - ‘I only bought this album a few weeks ago and it is absolutely fantastic’ Cashier - ‘Yeah I know, its really good. I’ve put it on so many times while working in this department and I bought a copy also. I don’t understand why it didn’t sell that well, I think it’s better than his first album and that was very good for only having 6 or however many days it was to record it’<br>Lady – ‘I think its go to do with the lack of promotion. You would think they would be promoting him like crazy cause he was such a phenomenon, I mean he was voting to be the Idol by the public, and I think he still is if they just upped the promotion a bit. He’s really great. I’m buying this CD for a friend of mine, she likes Guy but she just hasn’t gotten around to buying it’<br> I agreed with everything both those women said but the one thing that sealed it for me was when the lady said ‘I’m buying it for a friend of mine, she likes Guy but she just hasn’t gotten around to buying it.’ Its that exact reason why Guy’s album didn’t sell particularly well. There wasn’t enough promotion to make people say, oh I’m gonna go out and by that tomorrow, there was nothing! I only ever saw promotional ads for his album twice and they were both on Foxtel?! What does that say? And that same week it was released in conjunction with Robbie’s greatest hits I saw ads everywhere for Robbie, like at least once or twice a day at the times when the majority of people watched TV. It made me want to get that album cause it was there in my face, but not to the point where you would get sick of it. That is smart promotion. Guy’s promotional team needs to be sorted out if he wants to be successful because Guy is doing everything perfectly, he hasn’t put a foot wrong. I don’t really know who is in charge of it, whether it be his management or the record label itself. All I know is, if Guy got half of the promotion say for instance that of “Australia’s so called Princess” Delta Goodrem does, (and doesn’t it say something they were promoting HER album during the final of Australian Idol 2, while Guy had his album out and his concert tour if I’m correct) Guy would be massive…<br> Guy IS ready… he has been ready for a year (I’m sure for many years before he got his break), now the marketing and promotional side of things need to step up and be counted. He is going to be a extremely popular artist, and this is something quite big being said for somebody who isn’t a huge Guy fan but enjoys his music and performances. The problem is, will it be too late for the Australian Music Industry to actually acknowledge the successful, talented, genuine nice guy artist right under their nose, before other countries discover the voice and talent of Guy and snap him up…<br> I’m afraid this may also be reciprocated with Anthony aswell. I just hope not, for the sake of the Australian Music Industry, both of artist’s fans, and them themselves…<br> Sorry if there is mistakes, just couldn't be bothered looking back over it haha!
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ANTHONY
Jan 12, 2005 23:28:21 GMT 10
Post by angelicguy on Jan 12, 2005 23:28:21 GMT 10
Well said Natalia...agree totally!
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ANTHONY
Jan 13, 2005 0:38:28 GMT 10
Post by MaybeNext on Jan 13, 2005 0:38:28 GMT 10
Natalia you are spot on again.
I couldn't agree more with what you are saying. I think the 'Idol' promotion machine is somewhat idle. I believe they are running on Guy's 'Idol" name and not his music and not the artist. Most of the public have no idea what sort of songs Guy writes. OWMB is not really indicative of the whole of his album, yet that is all they have heard. Adds with sound bites of his other songs would have really helped in that area. Running just off his Idol title has not been as successful as Caplice have thought as many of the 'Idol" fans have switched bases and are now watching a new batter. They need to promote the artist and not just run on the moment.
Anthony is very susceptable to falling to this line of thinking too, especially seeing as many have bought The Prayer and may feel they have their little momento of him and so won't bother with his album. They really have to get Anthony and his music out there and quick smart, not just run on his 'Idol" moment. The public have short memories.
At least Anthony has the advantage over Guy in that Guy's first album was so rushed he wasn't able to consolidate his own style - imagine how many of his songs would have been on it if he'd had the weeks that Shannon and Anthony had for theirs instead of 5 days.
I believe that is part of the huge success that Shannon has had. He had time to get his style together, pick the best songs for it and then put his album out. His fan base know what they are getting as they know his style.
Anthony has a better chance at putting out his style like Shannon has. Anthony's album will sell well running off his fame and cute looks but when the girls have another cuter guy to chase where will he be then? He will have to have good music behind him and in people's memories or he will be forgotten when the next cute Idol comes out. I agree that his voice is great but he, like all pop artists has to watch out he does not become another discarded fashion accessory.
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ANTHONY
Jan 13, 2005 23:36:55 GMT 10
Post by allie LuvAnThOnY on Jan 13, 2005 23:36:55 GMT 10
quack quack yadda yadda Anthony is the BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why can't u get it and accept the facts the prayer is the best selling single, and it's currently #1 for 1 month on the chart and reach real platinum sales figure? guy can't even sold more than platinum sales figure with his 2nd album. guy fans on this board is the most annoying fans and all they want to do is want all the other idol fans agree with their little theory and argue with U to death. look what they do in casey thread, want to be all so nice and support casey but you know what? casey fans don't like rabid guy fans. don't waste your time!! Anthony is the BEST IDOL EVER! [quore]anthony fans looks like theres a chance of him appearing at the australia day eve concert broadcast channel 10
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ANTHONY
Jan 13, 2005 23:47:55 GMT 10
Post by I like anthony 2 on Jan 13, 2005 23:47:55 GMT 10
whats cu? the prayer is awesome but why oh why do a danceversion of it on the single would have preferred something else
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